Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #206

[girlhasnoname]

That’s what RA said, to me it sounds more like embarrassment. Like a kid who does something embarrassing at school would be like “my life is over, all my friends think I’m a loser now. I can never go back to school”. He was expressing embarrassment over the police asking people he knew for information about him.

Just another perspective, I think being accused in the brutal murderer of two young girls would elicit an expression of more than just embarrassment to my friends or coworkers. I'd be furious, demanding answers and providing anything necessary I had to in order to prove LE had the wrong guy, IF I were innocent.

IMO, RA knew the jig was up, he'd gotten away with 5+ years of freedom with the threat looming overhead that one day that could all change. RA was done and he knew it when LE came knocking on his door Oct 13th 2022 and then the 'few more questions' on Oct 26th 2022, which ended in his arrest.

Maybe RA was ready for it to be done if his confessions and statements are to be believed.

As always, JMO

 

[tlcya]

Was on Andrea's live (which is still going).

I believe Andrea got it wrong as testimony was the scarf thing was tested and no DNA was found. This is the issue I am having with no video inside the courtroom. I respect the Judge's ruling on that because I believe she is attempting to keep the circus atmosphere to a minimum inside her courtroom. But IMO what that doe is create a hot mess for those of us outside of that room. Multiple MSM reps, youtubers, and podcasters are all reporting different things that contradict one another.

I appreciate those who take the time to listen to the approved sources that are not MSM, but I am sticking with the MSM because I feel they will be more accurate and moreover, be accountable and come back to clarify/correct if they make a mistake. JMO

 

[ClearAhead]

I used to work at a local psychiatric hospital. From personal experience, working there for years, meds like Haldol and similar are used far more often that I ever saw as necessary. Of course, no one asked my opinion. The reasoning..... Its a chemical restraint. It allows a higher chance of a calm and compliant patient and a far less likely situation where physical restraints are needed. In other words, they would rather medicate them when they are behaving erratically such as very high emotions or hurting themselves or others, than to have to physically hold them down for long periods. A shot is not really ideal, but preferred to hours restrained in a bed, chair or papose board.

To assume he was heavily medicated is certainly not a fact. Even if he was prescribed a drug that could’ve “chemically restrained ” him, we have not heard testimony claiming the dosage he was given would result in that or even that he his spent days in bed. More to the opposite, Dr Wala wondered if he was faking his behavior.

Furthermore we also don’t what medication he was prescribed prior to his arrest. It’s impossible to portray his medication as significant toward anything until we hear the testimony.

MOO

 

[shonyakay]

Caution: Graphic descriptions

I believe Abby and Libby's blood tells the story ONLY their killer would know.

I believe Richard Allen's confessions will contain precise details regarding the blood evidence that he couldn't possibly know unless he was their killer.

For instance the blood evidence in regards to Libby,

How she was in a sitting position when she was stabbed due to her blood over her thigh.
How she was crying during the crime due to her tears mixing with her blood.
How after she was stabbed, got up, and was trying to get away from her killer.
How she grabbed her injured throat.
How Libby's blood got on the tree in certain areas.
How Libby's body was pulled through her own blood.

The blood evidence in regards to Abby,

How Abby's blood was contained to just the area surrounding her fatal neck injury.

How Abby didn't die right away but yet there was no evidence of blood on her hands or on the sleeves of the Sweatshirt she was found wearing.

Richard Allen's confessions are going to line up perfectly with the findings and testimony of blood spatter expert, Dr. Patrick Cicero.

It is important to note that Cicero wasn't hired until February 2024. So his findings would not be in any discovery Richard Allen may have been privy too when he was confessing in 2023.

Dr. Patrick Cicero is a reputable blood spatter expert from the Laporte County Sheriff's Office in northern Indiana and has been a bloodstain pattern expert for more than 20 years. He has analyzed several hundred cases and teaches at Indiana Law Enforcement Academy and universities.

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 9 | DNA and Blood Spatter experts take the stand: Allen's DNA not found at scene

The jury heard testimony from Stacy Bozinovski. She tested the sexual assault kits that came from the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German during their autopsies.

www.wrtv.com

Richard Allen is Guilty, so say we one, so say we all. Imo.

 

[Niner]

Delphi Murders trial: Day 10 live blog

Day 10 in the trial of Delphi Murders suspect Richard Allen begins at 9 a.m. Tuesday. Follow our live blog for the latest developments.

www.wishtv.com

9 A.M.: Court begins for Tuesday session​

The first court session of the day is expected to begin at 9 a.m. The court adjourned at 5 p.m. Monday.


News 8’s Kyla Russell is back in Delphi for continuing coverage of the double murder trial of Richard Allen.

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1850866447808860377

 

[girlhasnoname]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1851249029738279049

RA is a chameleon when it comes to photographs. JMO

 

[steeltowngirl]

So can people that are innocent.

This trial is hopefully what will establish that - guilty or innocent.

I understand that. The sheer volume of RA’s confessions is alarming though.

I don’t agree that a trial will truly establish guilt or innocence. At least not factually, with absolute certainty. The jury will decide to convict or acquit, based on the evidence provided in court.

May justice prevail.

jmo

 

[Damarna]

So can people that are innocent.

This trial is hopefully what will establish that - guilty or innocent.

Guilty or NOT guilty. Doesn't necessarily mean innocent IMO. I'm not referring to this specifically but just in general.

 

[Bbgiraffe]

Can you explain how you think he would have passed them again? I thought he was on the bridge near one of the early platforms allegedly watching the fish in the stream. The girls were toward the end of the bridge. He said he turned around and left the bridge how would he have passed them? I'm missing this or not understanding.

Bb walked to the bridge and turned around. When she went back she walked by Abby and Libby if he walked back he also would have walked by Abby and Libby

 

[snooptroop88]

Caution: Graphic descriptions

I believe Abby and Libby's blood tells the story ONLY their killer would know.

I believe Richard Allen's confessions will contain precise details regarding the blood evidence that he couldn't possibly know unless he was their killer.

For instance the blood evidence in regards to Libby,

How she was in a sitting position when she was stabbed due to her blood over her thigh.
How she was crying during the crime due to her tears mixing with her blood.
How after she was stabbed, got up, and was trying to get away from her killer.
How she grabbed her injured throat.
How Libby's blood got on the tree in certain areas.
How Libby's body was pulled through her own blood.

The blood evidence in regards to Abby,

How Abby's blood was contained to just the area surrounding her fatal neck injury.

How Abby didn't die right away but yet there was no evidence of blood on her hands or on the sleeves of the Sweatshirt she was found wearing.

Richard Allen's confessions are going to line up perfectly with the findings and testimony of blood spatter expert, Dr. Patrick Cicero.

It is important to note that Cicero wasn't hired until February 2024. So his findings would not be in any discovery Richard Allen may have been privy too when he was confessing in 2023.

Dr. Patrick Cicero is a reputable blood spatter expert from the Laporte County Sheriff's Office in northern Indiana and has been a bloodstain pattern expert for more than 20 years. He has analyzed several hundred cases and teaches at Indiana Law Enforcement Academy and universities.

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 9 | DNA and Blood Spatter experts take the stand: Allen's DNA not found at scene

The jury heard testimony from Stacy Bozinovski. She tested the sexual assault kits that came from the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German during their autopsies.

www.wrtv.com

Richard Allen is Guilty, so say we one, so say we all. Imo.

Agreed! What is in those confessions? Other ideas:

-RA was aware of one of the victims having some striking physical feature that would only be known/visible if the victim were disrobed
-RA took home some trophy and basically it was absorbed into everyday living in the family home and nobody ever knew its origin
-He described the "interruption" and it was verified by LE
-He's been stalking one or both of the victims and knew personal info & knew where they were going to be that day
-One of the girls revealed personal information of an unusual nature in the course of the event and he repeated it in his confessions
-RA knew the bullet was point-down in the ground because he buried it there
-RA was involved in another murder and revealed information only the killer could know in that murder when he was discussing how he killed the girls
-

 

[Warwick7]

Caution: Graphic descriptions

I believe Abby and Libby's blood tells the story ONLY their killer would know.

I believe Richard Allen's confessions will contain precise details regarding the blood evidence that he couldn't possibly know unless he was their killer.

For instance the blood evidence in regards to Libby,

How she was in a sitting position when she was stabbed due to her blood over her thigh.
How she was crying during the crime due to her tears mixing with her blood.
How after she was stabbed, got up, and was trying to get away from her killer.
How she grabbed her injured throat.
How Libby's blood got on the tree in certain areas.
How Libby's body was pulled through her own blood.

The blood evidence in regards to Abby,

How Abby's blood was contained to just the area surrounding her fatal neck injury.

How Abby didn't die right away but yet there was no evidence of blood on her hands or on the sleeves of the Sweatshirt she was found wearing.

Richard Allen's confessions are going to line up perfectly with the findings and testimony of blood spatter expert, Dr. Patrick Cicero.

It is important to note that Cicero wasn't hired until February 2024. So his findings would not be in any discovery Richard Allen may have been privy too when he was confessing in 2023.

Dr. Patrick Cicero is a reputable blood spatter expert from the Laporte County Sheriff's Office in northern Indiana and has been a bloodstain pattern expert for more than 20 years. He has analyzed several hundred cases and teaches at Indiana Law Enforcement Academy and universities.

Delphi Murders Trial: Day 9 | DNA and Blood Spatter experts take the stand: Allen's DNA not found at scene

The jury heard testimony from Stacy Bozinovski. She tested the sexual assault kits that came from the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German during their autopsies.

www.wrtv.com

Richard Allen is Guilty, so say we one, so say we all. Imo.

Yes! Bam!
And now let this day begin!
I think I am going to have a love hate relationship with what we are going hear today...

 

[Yuletide]

Bb walked to the bridge and turned around. When she went back she walked by Abby and Libby if he walked back he also would have walked by Abby and Libby

I think he hid off to the side and let the girls cross the bridge then decided between two targets. He chose Libby and Abby

 

[shonyakay]

Agreed! What is in those confessions? Other ideas:

-RA was aware of one of the victims having some striking physical feature that would only be known/visible if the victim were disrobed
-RA took home some trophy and basically it was absorbed into everyday living in the family home and nobody ever knew its origin
-He described the "interruption" and it was verified by LE
-He's been stalking one or both of the victims and knew personal info & knew where they were going to be that day
-One of the girls revealed personal information of an unusual nature in the course of the event and he repeated it in his confessions
-RA knew the bullet was point-down in the ground because he buried it there
-RA was involved in another murder and revealed information only the killer could know in that murder when he was discussing how he killed the girls
-

I agree. There will be many other instances that corroborate that Richard Allen is the Guilty party.

I was just sharing the blood evidence because I believe that proves he knew ONLY details the killer would know, not even LE, until Cicero relayed his findings.

Also those details are not something he was privy to in any discovery prior to 2024.

 

[SouthEnd]

True. Context is everything.

JMO MOO JMT

Hmm... Perhaps we can all agree that a person, guilty or innocent, in the throes of despair can say 'It's over'. And it can mean either - 'you found me out', or 'my life is over because I am accused'.

And guilty or innocent, they can think back to what they said once the despair subsides, and quickly cover up by throwing a random excuse.

(I would say look at the Karen Read's statement but oh boy that's another kettle of worms)

All MOO

 

[Rosegold68]

The ‘it’s over’ statement imo was because he knew they could match him to the BG video….hes probably been seeing it round town wondering why nobody had realised the similarities

 

[SouthEnd]

How does that jive with not tested? Maybe I misread something-

I think AB could have possibly misstated the 'lack of testing'. Everyone else reported that no blood or DNA was found, and to say that... you need to test, right?

All MOO

 

[snooptroop88]

I agree. There will be many other instances that corroborate that Richard Allen is the Guilty party.

I was just sharing the blood evidence because I believe that proves he knew ONLY details the killer would know, not even LE, until Cicero relayed his findings.

Also those details are not something he was privy to in any discovery prior to 2024.

Totally agreed.

Libby crying. That was on your list. I really wonder.

 

[MassGuy]

Guilty or NOT guilty. Doesn't necessarily mean innocent IMO. I'm not referring to this specifically but just in general.

Exactly. I think if he’s found not guilty here, it won’t be because the jury believes he is innocent. It will be because the prosecution didn’t prove their case.

He’s there around the time of the murders. He says he’s dressed like BG. Witnesses see him and he says he saw them. His gun matches the round at the scene. He changes his timeline to match the evidence. He confessed countless times.

There’s almost certainly no way they could look at that and say “he’s innocent.” But they could very well be convinced that’s not enough.

 

[SouthEnd]

I don’t recall any neighbours and coworkers who spoke with LE also speaking with the media. It seems the one thing people agree on is that very few really knew him at all.

Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen: Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'
“Richard Allen, 50, was the guy who worked at CVS. He played pool at the now-closed JC's Bar and Grill. He was nice enough, not overly outgoing.

In the small community of Delphi, Indiana, that was about it, until this weekend….”

The Murdersheet did a multipart series speaking with a number of his coworkers.

I think the one conclusion one could draw is that he did not socialise with his coworkers, and that indeed, no one (who was at least willing to talk) knew him.

MOO