GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #218

[Sweeper2000]

Saddest damn thing.

Delphi murders: Jurors watch video extracted from Libby German’s phone

DELPHI, Ind. – One of the most famous—or infamous—pieces of the Delphi murders puzzle is video taken from Libby German’s phone. The grainy image of “Bridge Guy” was taken from a video extracted fro…

fox59.com

cheers. even as a description it was enough. those poor girls must have been scared beyond wits. glad we got him.

 

[SMK777]

Saddest damn thing.

Delphi murders: Jurors watch video extracted from Libby German’s phone

DELPHI, Ind. – One of the most famous—or infamous—pieces of the Delphi murders puzzle is video taken from Libby German’s phone. The grainy image of “Bridge Guy” was taken from a video extracted fro…

fox59.com

So I'm assuming the state made an argument to the jury that the footage and audio was a match to Richard Allen?

 

[ClearAhead]

did he have brown hair and no beard at the time of the killing? also some described a suspect as having "not blue eyes"... are they hazel? look blue in the side by side

There was no trial testimony regarding eye colour ever mentioned. Whoever was responsible for the “not blue eyes” may’ve retracted their statement. We don’t know, maybe they sighted someone who was later known to not be the killer (ie Libby’s dad while he was searching)? What’s published by the media is not evidence.

Regardless, how he looked at the time of the killings wasn’t even a key trial focus, and although it’s being discussed here now, I didn’t get the impression emphasis on his appearance was what sealed RA’s fate. Too much time has passed. Rather he did himself in by his suspicious behavior and subsequent incriminating statements. JMO

 

[ClearAhead]

So I'm assuming the state made an argument to the jury that the footage and audio was a match to Richard Allen?

The detective responsible for transcribing RA’s confessions offered his opinion that the voice was similar but no, I don’t recall the state insisting the footage and audio was a match to RA since that would be impossible to prove. But obviously after being presented with all the evidence the jury concluded it was indeed RA on the bridge. JMO

 

[SMK777]

Regardless, how he looked at the time of the killings wasn’t even a key trial focus, and although it’s being discussed here now, I didn’t get the impression emphasis on his appearance was what sealed RA’s fate. Too much time has passed. Rather he did himself in by his suspicious behavior and subsequent incriminating statements. JMO

Was there also a lot of solid evidence along with the circumstantial factors?

 

[ClearAhead]

Was there also a lot of solid evidence along with the circumstantial factors?

No the evidence was circumstantial, but collectively very compelling. However I’m not aware of a consolidated source which lists it all, other than the MS interview with the juror member might be helpful.

Starting wth buying the 6-pack of beer, not going out for lunch with his parents and ending with the sighting of the white van as the reason he forced the girls across the creek was what stood out for me.

 

[SMK777]

The detective responsible for transcribing RA’s confessions offered his opinion that the voice was similar but no, I don’t recall the state insisting the footage and audio was a match to RA since that would be impossible to prove. But obviously after being presented with all the evidence the jury concluded it was indeed RA on the bridge. JMO

Yes, it would seem extremely important if Bridge Guy was the killer, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the video and audio match the defendant.

 

[Emma Peel]

New Filing on the State v RA Docket.

(Motion to compel filed by NBCUniversal Media, LLC)

Something for EVERYONE!!

NBCU - Motion to Intervene and to Compel Access to Public Trial Exhibits.pdf


JMHO

 

[Boxer]

So I'm assuming the state made an argument to the jury that the footage and audio was a match to Richard Allen?

Yes, but timing also.
RA admittedly passed the group of girls going toward the bridge, then he was seen on the bridge (platform 1) by a witness who turned around at the bridge and passed Abby and Libby in about a minute who were walking to the bridge.

But for myself, MOO the minute I heard RAs voice I knew it was a match.

 

[SMK777]

No the evidence was circumstantial, but collectively very compelling. However I’m not aware of a consolidated source which lists it all, other than the MS interview with the juror member might be helpful.

Starting wth buying the 6-pack of beer, not going out for lunch with his parents and ending with the sighting of the white van as the reason he forced the girls across the creek was what stood out for me.

His defense on appeal seem to be disputing the white van evidence. I'm going to look it up again...

ETA: In this article the attorneys dispute the timing of the white van:

Attorneys for Richard Allen cite alleged errors in Delphi murders case in push to overturn convictions

Richard Allen’s defense team filed a Motion to Correct Errors, which is the first step toward a formal appeal of his conviction and sentence.

www.wthr.com

 

[ClearAhead]

Yes, it would seem extremely important if Bridge Guy was the killer, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the video and audio match the defendant.

The prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt RA was guilty of the double homicide of Libby and Abby. Yes, it was assumed the video was of the killer but since the actual murderer wasn’t captured in the act, I disagree the onus was on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt the video and audio matched the defendant. The focus of the states evidence presented during the trial was far wider than just that. JMO

 

[Jade]

Yes, it's impressive that the trooper is certain that Bridge Guy's voice is RA's. Definitely.

But the news video I posted upthread did say that after being interviewed face to face after he called the tipline following the crime, it was believed RA was not involved with the crime. That is why he was forgotten for 5 years.

[ It's in the transcript. Very odd that he admits to being on the bridge at the time the girls were, they get a good look at him, and forget him for 5 years. ]

Many people have found the evidence against him weak, and the rush to arrest him as too hasty. Still trying to catch up with all, although I did follow a prominent blog on the case after RA's arrest.

[…] The second witness of the morning was Daniel Dulin, an Indiana Department of Natural Resources Conservation Officer. He was asked to follow up on any leads starting from February 13, 2017.

On February 18, 2017, Dulin started with the Richard Allen tip. He called Allen and asked him to either come to the station or meet at his house, which Allen denied.

Instead, they met at a grocery store parking lot […]

Day 6 of the Delphi Murder Trial: A tip that put Richard Allen at the scene

DELPHI, Ind. (WLFI) - Witness testimonies continue on day six of Delphi for the Delphi double homicide trial.

www.wlfi.com

The CO then filed the tip narrative using RA’s home's street name, Whiteman, for his last name, Allen.

The authorities couldn’t have cleared RA; they didn’t even know his name.

The CO didn’t have the authority to officially clear RA he just was careless and clueless. So any being dismissed was unofficial and because of negligence, imo.

My theory is that RA projected different vibes to adult possible CVS customers just in case he was recognized.

So to the young girls he didn't care what they thought so he sneered, they thought him grumpy, not a happy person.

To the female adult he vibes innocent, friendly, helpful CVS clerk.

Remember the picture the Defense had on their page with RA with the brown knit beanie on?

We got our brown hair right there it even stands up like poufy, a bouffant shape.


all imo

 

[Boxer]

Also Sheriff Leazenby ill advisedly said on the news that he knew BGs voice from somewhere, so obviously RA over at CVS made sure to never be the one talking to Leazenby over a CVS transaction, CVS is like 500 ft. from the sheriff station.

 

[SMK777]

The prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt RA was guilty of the double homicide of Libby and Abby. Yes, it was assumed the video was of the killer but since the actual murderer wasn’t captured in the act, I disagree the onus was on the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt the video and audio matched the defendant. The focus of the states evidence presented during the trial was far wider than just that. JMO

I just think the Bridge Guy footage that Libby captured was absolutely essential to the case. It's a rare case of a victim actually recording her murderer on video and audio immediately prior to the crime.

 

[FrostedGlass]

New Filing on the State v RA Docket.

(Motion to compel filed by NBCUniversal Media, LLC)

Something for EVERYONE!!

NBCU - Motion to Intervene and to Compel Access to Public Trial Exhibits.pdf

CCS entries:

Temporary/Limited Scope Appearance Filed Limited Appearance by Attorneys For Party: NBCUniversal Media, LLC File Stamp: 02/03/2025​

Motion to Intervene Filed NBCU's Motion to Intervene and to Compel Access to Public Trial Exhibits Filed By: NBCUniversal Media, LLC File Stamp: 02/03/2025​

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[SMK777]

Remember the picture the Defense had on their page with RA with the brown knit beanie on?

We got our brown hair right there it even stands up like poufy, a bouffant shape.

The witness said the guy with the pouf of brown hair was "beautiful and boyish". I suppose RA might appear that way...

 

[ClearAhead]

His defense on appeal seem to be disputing the white van evidence. I'm going to look it up again...

ETA: In this article the attorneys dispute the timing of the white van:

Attorneys for Richard Allen cite alleged errors in Delphi murders case in push to overturn convictions

Richard Allen’s defense team filed a Motion to Correct Errors, which is the first step toward a formal appeal of his conviction and sentence.

www.wthr.com

Disputes over evidence take place during the trial. Good luck to the D if they expect to be granted an appeal to have a second go around for what they failed at the first time around. It just doesn’t work that way.

 

[Boxer]

MOO professionalosm takes a back seat being the "right" cultural guy to be in their uniform.

Night and day differencece with the Lafayette PD.
LPD should be a required case case study in POST training on how to be an aggressive, fair police department in a rural place.

 

[SMK777]

[…] The second witness of the morning was Daniel Dulin, an Indiana Department of Natural Resources Conservation Officer. He was asked to follow up on any leads starting from February 13, 2017.

On February 18, 2017, Dulin started with the Richard Allen tip. He called Allen and asked him to either come to the station or meet at his house, which Allen denied.

Instead, they met at a grocery store parking lot […]

Day 6 of the Delphi Murder Trial: A tip that put Richard Allen at the scene

DELPHI, Ind. (WLFI) - Witness testimonies continue on day six of Delphi for the Delphi double homicide trial.

www.wlfi.com

The CO then filed the tip narrative using RA’s home's street name, Whiteman, for his last name, Allen.

The authorities couldn’t have cleared RA; they didn’t even know his name.

The CO didn’t have the authority to officially clear RA he just was careless and clueless. So any being dismissed was unofficial and because of negligence, imo.

My theory is that RA projected different vibes to adult possible CVS customers just in case he was recognized.

So to the young girls he didn't care what they thought so he sneered, they thought him grumpy, not a happy person.

To the female adult he vibes innocent, friendly, helpful CVS clerk.

Remember the picture the Defense had on their page with RA with the brown knit beanie on?

We got our brown hair right there it even stands up like poufy, a bouffant shape.


all imo

It's just very bizarre that 2 minor girls not even yet in high school are savagely murdered, and here this guy calls himself into the tipline, placing himself on the bridge just prior to the abductions and murders. He's interviewed face to face, and instead of being called back he's forgotten about for 5 years. Even with the Bridge Guy audio and video. It's staggering.

 

[ClearAhead]

The witness said the guy with the pouf of brown hair was "beautiful and boyish". I suppose RA might appear that way...

I think you must be referring to the original police statements. But each of these witnesses testified during the trial and expanded on what they saw. And that’s what the jury heard.

I respect their decision. It was they who were tasked to make their decision and that’s all that matters. Of course the defense is going to be complaining and claiming it was wrong.

JMO