GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #218

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While the site was down, these docs went up:

The latest motion to preserve is .... interesting. Ole Ricci Davis yet again. Sigh. :rolleyes:

14 Feb 2015 - Defendant's Verified Motion To Preserve And Produce Specific Evidence

14 Feb 2025 - Defendant's Verifed Motion To Strike The State's Response To Motion To Correct Error

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So in the MTCE Baldwin had RL out in the woods removing/replacing phone batteries at night with a set of micro screwdrivers while never logging a phone movement. Now in this latest motion Baldwin claims via RD/KK that RL couldn’t figure out how to use a smart phone for CSAM. This guy…🤮
 
So in the MTCE Baldwin had RL out in the woods removing/replacing phone batteries at night with a set of micro screwdrivers while never logging a phone movement. Now in this latest motion Baldwin claims via RD/KK that RL couldn’t figure out how to use a smart phone for CSAM. This guy…🤮
We need this one in order to determine who said what.
Nick's response with the exhibits attached.

02/04/2025 Response to a Petition Filed
State's Response to Motion to Correct Error.pdf
Filed By: State of Indiana​
 
Ricci Davis wrote a letter to Fox59; it's included in the article.
[snips]
He said he wrote seven letters to McLeland about the confessions before “he convicted an innocent man.”

Davis wrote that he initially believed Allen had a hand in the murders but changed his mind after the trial was over.

“I realized then all I was told by Ron Logan was there after all and secondly Richard Allen was not a guilty man after all,” Davis wrote. “This left two uncharged men and now back to three uncharged again.”

 
According to Allen's defense attorney Andrew Baldwin, Ricci Davis spoke to two men who allegedly told him details about the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German and said they were involved. Davis told the defense team he sent "as many as eight letters" to Carroll County Prosecutor Nick McLeland during Allen's trial, outlining what the two men allegedly told Davis.
 
We need this one in order to determine who said what.
Nick's response with the exhibits attached.

02/04/2025 Response to a Petition Filed
State's Response to Motion to Correct Error.pdf
Filed By: State of Indiana​
No, "we" got what we needed on 11NOV24 & 20DEC24. Baldwin didn’t & now he’s playing Chef Boyardee again with 2 known prolific liars & a conflicting theory with RL’s cell phone aptitude. If there were any real substance to any of this, RD wouldn’t have waited almost a year to open his lying mouth as well as sit around for months before reaching out to the press. Zero evidence the Klines were in Delphi on the 13th & that’s the crux of RD’s claims.

Still doesn’t get RA off that bridge & still doesn’t support the witnesses seeing anyone else that day.

More fluff in hopes of the appeals team is able to include it in their case.

MOO
 
So... I'm still struggling with this. Richard Allen still can't get off that bridge. Richard Allen has still seen the 4 girls who all saw him. He's still on platform One when Betsy Blair sees him. BB then sees libby and Abby. Richard Allen somehow gets off the platform, doesn't see the two girls and also misses Ron Logan and Keegan Kline cross the bridge, approach the girls, force them down the hill. Oh and they also planted his bullet between the girls.

He's super unlucky..
 
FWIW the Delphi murders are supposed to be covered on Dateline this Friday, if advertisements are correct.


TMS episode regarding the latest defense filings:

ETA TMS episode
 
No, "we" got what we needed on 11NOV24 & 20DEC24. Baldwin didn’t & now he’s playing Chef Boyardee again with 2 known prolific liars & a conflicting theory with RL’s cell phone aptitude. If there were any real substance to any of this, RD wouldn’t have waited almost a year to open his lying mouth as well as sit around for months before reaching out to the press. Zero evidence the Klines were in Delphi on the 13th & that’s the crux of RD’s claims.

Still doesn’t get RA off that bridge & still doesn’t support the witnesses seeing anyone else that day.

More fluff in hopes of the appeals team is able to include it in their case.

MOO
I'd like a copy if Nick's reply (the one you posted and removed) so we can see who said what. In that one, Nick was the one who wrote about that RL phone battery stuff, not Baldwin.

There are a lot of interesting points in the newest filings. Maybe one of our lawyers will come along and summarize them.
 
I'd like a copy if Nick's reply (the one you posted and removed) so we can see who said what. In that one, Nick was the one who wrote about that RL phone battery stuff, not Baldwin.

There are a lot of interesting points in the newest filings. Maybe one of our lawyers will come along and summarize them.
IIRC it was RD claiming RL told him he was changing phone batteries, which all of that supposed confession came from discovery anyway.

ETA corrected - no link
 
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IIRC it was RD claiming RL told him he was changing phone batteries, which all of that supposed confession came from discovery anyway.

ETA corrected - no link
Page 2 explains that issue. Nick was the one who made that claim but didn't provide anything to back it up. This motion linked cites a number of pages where Nick made claims that are unverified and without supporting affidavits. "Allegations based on fact made outside the record."

 
Page 2 explains that issue. Nick was the one who made that claim but didn't provide anything to back it up. This motion linked cites a number of pages where Nick made claims that are unverified and without supporting affidavits. "Allegations based on fact made outside the record."

So says the guys who said the phone wasn’t wet & RA was being represented by a private attorney but conveniently omitted the email sent to NM stating he was NOT representing RA. Misrepresenting the facts, as they’ve done since the New Year. This will be no different, regardless of who mentioned the phone battery first in these filings - obviously RD said it in 2017 or NM wouldn’t know about it. Defense simply omitted the entire story, as usual.
 
Last week, I missed the eight year mark of the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. I am glad this monster has been put away; that was the right thing to do. It’s so unfair the way their lives were taken from them. I dont understand it, I dont want to understand it. However; it’s gratifying to know that RA will never be able to do this to another child or family ever again. moo
 
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"I thought they were older." IMO again scrubbing his own history. Pretending he wouldn't have ordered them down the hill if he knew their ages. He doesn't want to be known as a baby killer, baby SAer. It's not about the truth, for him, IMO, it's about repackaged it so it doesn't look so bad. Even though it's all awful, all ugly.
As if, (in RA's mind) had the girls had been older, rape would have been ok.

That - alone - provides insight into how his sick mind works.

jmo
 
I can’t summon the energy to bother with Baldwins latest conspiracy. But it should be noted that none of what Ricci is suddenly claiming amounts to evidence in the case. Baldwin didn’t attempt to include this rando at trial even though he knew about him.

MOO

Baldwin seems to be a conspiracist in my view. He spent 2 years on a completely different conspiracy which he claimed was true. Now he has a completely new and different conspiracy. That can work in court to have contradictory theories but obviously outside the courtroom there is no reason to give this any credence
 
So says the guys who said the phone wasn’t wet & RA was being represented by a private attorney but conveniently omitted the email sent to NM stating he was NOT representing RA. Misrepresenting the facts, as they’ve done since the New Year. This will be no different, regardless of who mentioned the phone battery first in these filings - obviously RD said it in 2017 or NM wouldn’t know about it. Defense simply omitted the entire story, as usual.

So Baldwin now admits his epic Franks was all nonsense?

Good to know!
 
@Niner

While the site was down, these docs went up:

The latest motion to preserve is .... interesting. Ole Ricci Davis yet again. Sigh. :rolleyes:

14 Feb 2015 - Defendant's Verified Motion To Preserve And Produce Specific Evidence

14 Feb 2025 - Defendant's Verifed Motion To Strike The State's Response To Motion To Correct Error

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It just makes me want to gag, RD is about as unreliable 'witness' as you can find. They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel, but let them eat cake.

Their Response to the MTCE is more footnote than actual summary. Ole' Baldwin really loves himself a good footnote. LOL

JMO
 
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