GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #219

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Ricci's Uncle's Statement. Did it get a Haircut?



Hey @FrostedGlass Thanks for posting ^this.^
I see two versions of Uncle's stmt.
The truncated version is two pages, which -
- run from ¶1 to part of ¶15, OMITS ¶¶ 16-19,
- jumps to concluding ¶20
- followed by another paragraph (not sure if that ¶ constitutes a jurat, as the doc. lacks a notarial seal & notary public signature. Does say he is "swearing and affirming"),
- uncle's siggy.
No DATE. No WITNESS siggie.
Marked as def's. Exhibit A.

I can't get the other full 20¶ version image to post here. Argh.
It's 3 pages & includes all ¶¶1 -20.

Did Max Lewis EDIT his post on X? Color me confused. :(

Regardless, seems it could be sufficient to support def's motion asking for preservation & production evidence? Anyone? TiA.
I only see the 3 page version which has a filing date/time, exhibit number and signature. It looks legit to me.
 

TMS points out that RD makes claims about the RL and the crime that aren't accurate, that also he incriminates KAK. Needless to say, they don't find him credible. "Worthless. Nothing to other, not worth your time."

TMS reached out to both RD and KAK.

Will share some messages from each but don't include them all because, since there are credibility issues, they don't want to shear innocent people.

32.40 KAK (speaking about RD): that dude is an idiot. I've only spoken to him maybe two times. He's one of those idiots who writes to prosecutors to try to get time cuts. It's laughable.

KAK says he talked to RD about being stabbed. (KAK claims he got stabbed months to a year ago.)

KAK Says he didn't know RL. Or a connection with RL and a link of CSAM. KAKA: If I did, I wouldn't be in prison for "a couple of images'.

TMS assumes KAK does not know RA because they think he'd have been fast to tell that.

They also not that he is not credible and seriously self-serving. They don't really believe KAK would tell RC much of anything because RD has nothing KAK needs.

As to RD, TMS think he has some issues. Communication style is lacking. Incoherent, hard to understand.
 
Boy RD must be quit a fellow if all his fellow inmates are tripping over themselves to confess to him. :rolleyes:

It's laughable. RD's story has certainly evolved over the years hasn't it? Must really burn his butt that the prosecution didn't believe him and the defense apparently didn't believe him enough to put him on the stand when they were granted leave to transport him to RA's trial. Poor lil Ricci didn't get to have his day as the star witness in court. 😢


I wonder what other crimes he stands ready to solve? 😂
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According to Allen's defense attorney Andrew Baldwin, Ricci Davis spoke to two men who allegedly told him details about the murders of Abby Williams and Libby German and said they were involved. Davis told the defense team he sent "as many as eight letters" to Carroll County Prosecutor Nick McLeland during Allen's trial, outlining what the two men allegedly told Davis.
Prison inmate says 2 other men confessed to being involved in Delphi murders
 

One interesting tidbit 50 m

RD says something will come out, something Atty Baldwin has, which seems to show he's aware of part of a strategy Baldwin is behind. TMS finds it very suspect.

TMS believes he's working closely with the Defense.

TMS don't believe RD. Don't believe RL said anything to him, don't think KAK confessed anything to him.
 
I only see the 3 page version which has a filing date/time, exhibit number and signature. It looks legit to me.
Looks very much like their ballistics expert affidavit, with 3 pages less of qualifications but potentially the same number of bullet points which may not be true.
 

55 minutes

They read an entire email from RD. He threatens them, then blocks them.

They summarize it: he misspelled 'stupid'.
 
FROM TMS part one above when KAK

"that dude is an idiot, I've only talked to him maybe two times. He's that kind of guy in prison that tries to write all the different prosecutors and get time cut on people's case. It's laughable"

when asked what they spoke about those two times KAK acknowledged speaking to RD he said "I talked to him about my lawsuit against ISP due to me getting stabbed."

when asked if KAK knew RL he responded with "no. I did not know RL or anything about that case. If I did I wouldn't be in prison for 43 years over a few pictures"
 

This whole episode is just the two of them decompressing.

Around 18 m they talk specifically about Delphi, big picture.

Too many people involved on the front end resulted in problems but they don't think LE was incompetent or bungling. Just a rough start.

Discussing the PCA, they didn't appreciate it for what it was, at the time. Because essentially it was a case focused on a timeline, they didn't really pick up on that until with hindsight.

Upsetting to them for people who worked hard on the case but received unfair harassment, just for doing their jobs.

Not impressed with the people who are doing. (True crime creators.)

25 m. Aina says that these people who lack critically thinking should NOT be encouraged to get involved but should GO AWAY.... put your time into knitting.
 
29 minutes

They discuss who they didn't interview, post trial

ABaldwin.

KG says that, during the trial, AB represented to them that he couldn't wait into trial's end to share with them certain things about the case.

But now has declined.

They point out that publicly he's maintained that he'll only go on podcasts that coddle him.

AC: that's embarrassing.

 

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>

The defence has been shown to have filed erroneous and extremely misleading, very stretched-for-truth filings such as the Five Volume Fauxdinist Book Series (by their own admissions now), RD and his 'truth confessions' where the 'evidence within is obviously lies (girls' clothes burned etc). Defence claim that RA was represented by council on 28 Oct 2022, when he was not. etc etc

As to "Richard's Confessions":
Feb 2017:
Paraphrase: I was there on that bridge, in these clothes, at this time ... saw these girls as I was arriving
Feb 2017:
Screenshot from Video comes out of BG;' followed much later by the videoclip
Oct 13 to 26 2023:
Paraphrase (after the BG video comes out & timeline is public):
- I was there at this **new time** and saw those girls as I was leaving (evidence of guilty nowledge)
- If that picture came from one of the girls' phones it ain't me (evidence of guilty knowledge)

Kathy: "Richard, you told me you weren't on that bridge!"
Mar 2023:
- Richard Allen to begins confessing in prison to anyone & everyone who would listen (one notable exception: except apparently RD - lol)
3 Apr 2023:
- Richard receives letter and begins exhibiting 'various psychotic symptoms'
5 April 2023:
- Defence files an emergency motion to modify safekeeping

So for me - because I cannot speak for anyone else - there is absolutely no irony. ust his own statements and confessions with a very interesting evolvement as other factors (above) played out on the timeline. And his legal experts own shenanigans with their filings and their ever-conveniently evolving SODDI.


IMO.
 
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This whole episode is just the two of them decompressing.

Around 18 m they talk specifically about Delphi, big picture.

Too many people involved on the front end resulted in problems but they don't think LE was incompetent or bungling. Just a rough start.

Discussing the PCA, they didn't appreciate it for what it was, at the time. Because essentially it was a case focused on a timeline, they didn't really pick up on that until with hindsight.

Upsetting to them for people who worked hard on the case but received unfair harassment, just for doing their jobs.

Not impressed with the people who are doing. (True crime creators.)

25 m. Aina says that these people who lack critically thinking should NOT be encouraged to get involved but should GO AWAY.... put your time into knitting.
Appreciate the summary.

You need critical thinking in knitting, too, or you start out making one thing and end up with something else. If you can't look at your work and use your brain and know, "well, I don't know what went on there, but that is not right!" then rather than ripping back you just carry on until you've got a mare's nest of nonsense. Not unlike strange rabbit hole theories of true crime.

MOO
 
Appreciate the summary.

You need critical thinking in knitting, too, or you start out making one thing and end up with something else. If you can't look at your work and use your brain and know, "well, I don't know what went on there, but that is not right!" then rather than ripping back you just carry on until you've got a mare's nest of nonsense. Not unlike strange rabbit hole theories of true crime.

MOO
FWIW, I don't think it was a judgment on knitters as much as a plea to get those people off youtube into an enterprise without an audience. Bizarre to think of how many youtubers -- including lawyers -- spewed that Frank's binders nonsense which has been wholly debunked by actual critical thinkers AND largely abandoned by its authors.

JMO
 
FWIW, I don't think it was a judgment on knitters as much as a plea to get those people off youtube into an enterprise without an audience. Bizarre to think of how many youtubers -- including lawyers -- spewed that Frank's binders nonsense which has been wholly debunked by actual critical thinkers AND largely abandoned by its authors.

JMO
I just mean, those folks are going to have some strange looking finished objects, if they don't learn to think as they learn to knit!

The Franks, may we never see its like again. Once was too often, let alone five times.

MOO
 
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TMS points out that RD makes claims about the RL and the crime that aren't accurate, that also he incriminates KAK. Needless to say, they don't find him credible. "Worthless. Nothing to other, not worth your time."

TMS reached out to both RD and KAK.

Will share some messages from each but don't include them all because, since there are credibility issues, they don't want to shear innocent people.

32.40 KAK (speaking about RD): that dude is an idiot. I've only spoken to him maybe two times. He's one of those idiots who writes to prosecutors to try to get time cuts. It's laughable.

KAK says he talked to RD about being stabbed. (KAK claims he got stabbed months to a year ago.)

KAK Says he didn't know RL. Or a connection with RL and a link of CSAM. KAKA: If I did, I wouldn't be in prison for "a couple of images'.

TMS assumes KAK does not know RA because they think he'd have been fast to tell that.

They also not that he is not credible and seriously self-serving. They don't really believe KAK would tell RC much of anything because RD has nothing KAK needs.

As to RD, TMS think he has some issues. Communication style is lacking. Incoherent, hard to understand.
KAK knowing RA would be tantamount to saying he is an accomplice. Also, since KAK has a history of faking it ol, I don’t see how they can be sure he didn’t communicate Libby’s location to RA in some way. RA’s phone from 2017 is gone, right? Could KAK have had a burner phone at the time that he also conveniently disposed of?

Kinda think so.

And disjointed conversation is a passive aggressive manipulation tactic that many people who don’t ”look smart” use. Such as for instance those sporting the asexual look - and instead look like emblems of lazy egregious gluttony.

That sexual lipid shield of KAK’s might come in handy during the next 40 years in prison. But I guess beggars can’t be choosers…
 
And disjointed conversation is a passive aggressive manipulation tactic that many people who don’t ”look smart” use. Such as for instance those sporting the asexual look - and instead look like emblems of lazy egregious gluttony.
Correction: Ok so the weird communication style was RD’s - still I heard before KAK is ”limited”. I seriously doubt that. I don’t mean he’s reading Plato on his lair, or utilising his IQ for anything worth while to humanity. I just think he has good hardware and software. Despite his appearance, unsavoury obsessions and lack of higher education.

Also 43 years might not be so bad for someone who likes to be alone, while intermittently seriously manipulate people in a sadistic way.

Paraphrasing KAK : ”I’m in here 43 yrs for a couple of images” - implication: how smart can I be?

We’ll see how long he lasts I guess. THAT will be telling.

What RD says is not very interesting. Regardless, KAK remains a thorn in the side of this horrible case. Not as far as RA’s guilt is concerned, but for the sake of complete retribution.

JMO
 
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Ricci's Uncle's Statement. Did it get a Haircut?



Hey @FrostedGlass Thanks for posting ^this.^
I see two versions of Uncle's stmt.
The truncated version is two pages, which -
- run from ¶1 to part of ¶15, OMITS ¶¶ 16-19,
- jumps to concluding ¶20
- followed by another paragraph (not sure if that ¶ constitutes a jurat, as the doc. lacks a notarial seal & notary public signature. Does say he is "swearing and affirming"),
- uncle's siggy.
No DATE. No WITNESS siggie.
Marked as def's. Exhibit A.

I can't get the other full 20¶ version image to post here. Argh.
It's 3 pages & includes all ¶¶1 -20.

Did Max Lewis EDIT his post on X? Color me confused. :(

Regardless, seems it could be sufficient to support def's motion asking for preservation & production evidence? Anyone? TiA.
I had to chuckle reading that literary masterpiece, and it doesn't go unnoticed to me that Baldwin so graciously offered to help him write it. An Uncle of a known repeat offender who has been said to try and work deals many times to reduce his own sentence holds no weight with me. It would be truly humorous if it weren't so pathetic and desperate.

Who was this 'nice lady' he spoke to? If he was so concerned he called and so many times, why wouldn't he have gotten a name? Is there anyone Baldwin won't use or take advantage of?? I think not, and that shows the true character of a man.

Another lame attempt at manipulating by a Defense attorney with the scruples of a gnat. Please, Baldwin go away, your days in the sun are over as well as your dreams of being the famous, winning attorney of a high profile case. You've lost all credibility in the Court of Public Opinion. Even Rozzi has enough sense to dial it back.

Judge Gull already issued a response that she/the Court are keeping evidence based upon what is required by law.

JMO
 
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