GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #216

[Tortoise]

I've always completed that in my head as "if that photo is from the girls phone it's not me - because I didn't think they took my picture". It seems such an awkward way to say "no that isn't me" if it really isn't you.

Yes, it's leakage.

Not interested in what's in the photo, but who is behind the camera.

 

[mrjitty]

Yes, it's leakage.

Not interested in what's in the photo, but who is behind the camera.

Also very difficult to avoid exposition in your scripting!

 

[susane7]

Richard Allen self-reported after the BG pic was released and at the time the police didn't said where the pic came from, so it is possible Richard Allen would told it was him in the pic if they asked him but Dan Dulin didn't ask and Richard never told..

 

[Elley Mae]

I've always completed that in my head as "if that photo is from the girls phone it's not me - because I didn't think they took my picture". It seems such an awkward way to say "no that isn't me" if it really isn't you.

In the image of him he appears to be looking down, (to watch his step) i think that the picture was taken when he was looking down.

Jmo

 

[steeltowngirl]

I am still dumbfounded Doug Carter (maybe kim reilly?) said in the early days when asked by a reporter should the public be scared and should we be locking our kids up??
He assured them no.

I’m pretty sure DC didn’t say that, nor Riley. It was likely Leazenby and Mullin.

Although there are no official suspects at this time, Sheriff Leazenby said he still feels those living in Carroll County are safe, but everyone should be more cautious and attentive moving forward.

“I feel safe for this community. Whether or not folks should be alert and watchful, that’s a true statement. But we always encourage that folks always do that,” said Sheriff Leazenby.

ISP: "We're going to track them down"

A small Carroll County community is on edge as police continue to search for the person responsible for the deaths of two teenage girls.

www.wrtv.com

“I think people are smart enough in our community to draw their own conclusions about what they should feel and shouldn’t feel,” Delphi Police Chief Steve Mullin replied. “Our people are very smart. They are a very good community and they are very strong. And they are able to draw their own conclusions about this whole situation I think quite successfully.”

Abigail Williams & Liberty German: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Liberty German and Abigail Williams, 14 and 13, were found dead after going missing in Indiana. Police are investigating their deaths as a double homicide.

heavy.com

“I can’t say there’s not a threat to the community,” Indiana State Police Sgt. Kim Riley told RTV6 at the time. "We have not caught the person yet. Is the person still in the community? We don’t know.”

Delphi property owner: "I can't comprehend it"

After over 48 hours of searching the property and area around where the bodies of two Delphi girls were found police and FBI cleared the scene on Thursday.

www.wrtv.com

 

[FrostedGlass]

MW has a pending expungement for the crime scene photos charge. All the outrage he caused and soon his case will be gone with a click of a mouse. Life is so strange sometimes. MOO

10/30 is the file date for the cancelled compliance hearing
11/14 is the date of Order Issued for the expungement

CANCELED Compliance Hearing Reason: Other Session: 09/25/2024 1:30 PM, Rescheduled Session: 10/30/2024 1:30 PM, Cancelled Comment: PDP​

Order Issued Order pending expungement entered. KB Judicial Officer: Cummins, Douglas B. Order Signed: 10/30/2024​

Automated ENotice Issued to Parties Order Issued ---- 11/13/2024 : Lindsey Holden-Kay;Michael J Kyle​

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[Boxer]

Respectfully, it was not at all like Uvalde. In Uvalde, dozens of armed police officers knew exactly where the mass killer of schoolchildren could be located - inside a school building. They stood by and did not engage, while terrified children phoned 911 from inside classrooms, begging for help, only to be slaughtered.

An unconscionable dereliction of duty in Uvalde.

jmo

You are right.

 

[SandyQLS]

Awww, nuts! I completely forgot to mention anything yesterday……

How about that ballistics expert for the state? Melissa Oberg remains perfect so far - 112-0.

I thought she did a great job of explaining herself & how she tested the guns & why she had to fire the rounds. Quite the strong witness for the state, IMO, compared to the utter tool the D put in the stand. Hope he enjoyed his vacation to Morocco.

In my mind, I chose to ignore both experts just as jurors often do when there are competing experts. I still arrived at Guilty and BARD. But I am posting because my confidence in this verdict is increased by the evidence in the famous 1983 case of Diane Downs (Small Sacrifices by Ann Rule). The gun used was never located but its existence was attested to by her ex-husband and ex-lover. iirc LE found spent casings on the floor of the car and on the road.
From Wikipedia:
"While they were unable to find the weapon, they found unfired cartridges in her home with extractor markings from the murder weapon."

Diane Downs - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I thought this was interesting and also 40 years ago.

 

[Vaderman]

I wonder what Richard "All Four Counts" Allen has planned for this weekend.

 

[pseudo_hum]

I wonder what Richard "All Four Counts" Allen has planned for this weekend.

IMO, it involves feces?

 

[Tealgrove]

I wonder what Richard "All Four Counts" Allen has planned for this weekend.

Probably won't be a few brewski's and football games.
Does he have his own TV?

 

[arielilane]

@billhuffman3

With the case in Delphi wrapping up this week, I wanted to republish the episodes I recorded with Libby's sister, Kelsi. She is such a powerful woman who was faced with an unthinkable tragedy. I am so happy that the family has some justice. Listen here: https://killerpodcasts.com/who-killed

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857465991363448935

 

[Tealgrove]

In my mind, I chose to ignore both experts just as jurors often do when there are competing experts. I still arrived at Guilty and BARD. But I am posting because my confidence in this verdict is increased by the evidence in the famous 1983 case of Diane Downs (Small Sacrifices by Ann Rule). The gun used was never located but its existence was attested to by her ex-husband and ex-lover. iirc LE found spent casings on the floor of the car and on the road.
From Wikipedia:
"While they were unable to find the weapon, they found unfired cartridges in her home with extractor markings from the murder weapon."

Diane Downs - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I thought this was interesting and also 40 years ago.

I'm sitting in a restaurant right now reading this and "Hungry Like a Wolf" is playing.

Whenever I hear that I think of those children and the fear they must have experienced.

 

[arielilane]

Dont forget Richard Allen's vehicle was caught on video! This article is a super read, and additionally, the narrative need not change if it's the truth. Richard Allen knows what he did. Glad the jurors knew too.


Investigators found that Allen owned a 2006 Ford 500 and a 2016 black Ford Focus. Surveillance footage from the nearby Hoosier Harvestore showed a black Ford Focus passing by the store toward the trail just before 1:30 p.m. on Feb. 13.

Richard Allen was not on Delphi investigators' radar. Then a volunteer found a box of tips.

Testimonies in the double-murder trial revealed how investigators focused on Richard Allen in 2022.

www.jconline.com

10/29/2024


There were some inconsistencies in Allen's statements.

In 2017, he said he arrived at the trail around 1:30 p.m. and left around 3:30 p.m. In 2022, he said he arrived there around noon and was not on the trail later than 2 p.m.

 

[arielilane]

I'm sitting in a restaurant right now reading this and "Hungry Like a Wolf" is playing.

Whenever I hear that I think of those children and the fear they must have experienced.

Reminds me of Diane Downs, unfortunately.

 

[INfisherman]

IMO, it involves feces?

…or sporks, or both? If both, wouldn’t that sort of be like a 2 for 1?

JMO

 

[303gmf]

I'm sitting in a restaurant right now reading this and "Hungry Like a Wolf" is playing.

Whenever I hear that I think of those children and the fear they must have experienced.

That song, a tough one to hear, still…
The book written as only Anne Rule could

 

[arielilane]

I'm sitting in a restaurant right now reading this and "Hungry Like a Wolf" is playing.

Whenever I hear that I think of those children and the fear they must have experienced.

Was going through the pages and didn't realize you were responding to Diane Downs' wikipedia page. I too won't forget what she did to her poor kids. Thank goodness, the prosecutor and his wife adopted two of the kids, and if iirc correctly one was killed by DD that day.

 

[mrjitty]

MW has a pending expungement for the crime scene photos charge. All the outrage he caused and soon his case will be gone with a click of a mouse. Life is so strange sometimes. MOO

10/30 is the file date for the cancelled compliance hearing
11/14 is the date of Order Issued for the expungement

CANCELED Compliance Hearing Reason: Other Session: 09/25/2024 1:30 PM, Rescheduled Session: 10/30/2024 1:30 PM, Cancelled Comment: PDP​

Order Issued Order pending expungement entered. KB Judicial Officer: Cummins, Douglas B. Order Signed: 10/30/2024​

Automated ENotice Issued to Parties Order Issued ---- 11/13/2024 : Lindsey Holden-Kay;Michael J Kyle​

​

I don’t believe he committed a crime in the first place. Unless we are actually supposed to believe he took the photos without permission.

 

[tlcya]

I don’t believe he committed a crime in the first place. Unless we are actually supposed to believe he took the photos without permission.

which I do not believe for one second.