GUILTY Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #219

[mrjitty]

For me the best aspected of this video for the defence is whether there is evidence of a gun.

But without the enhanced audio, I have no view on that.

 

[FrostedGlass]

They did see him on the second viewing. The extracted original video was played twice.

it's worth watching Motta's live reaction to it at 3 mins approx. If anyone wants to try to understand the BG innocence theory - then watch further. Personally i do not recommend!

In this video Motta calls Andy Baldwin and confirms this is the original extraction, as does Cara Wieneke. I think that question is done and dusted.

Also the original site which released this video also now says it is the original extraction.

I know they saw it in the live.
That's why I'm questioning the claim they were intentionally being deceptive.

 

[FrostedGlass]

To add-Aine said she didn't see BG but Kevin did. They also said the phone goes upside down which I don't see in the recently released video, I see sideways but no upside down.

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JH said on the GH interview the photo of BG released to the public was taken from the enhanced video because the original was "upside down and twisted" so someone stabilized it.

I am not convinced the video I viewed is the original. JMO

I'm more confused than ever. It says right on the site:

This is the full, raw, 43 second video obtained directly via the extraction performed on Liberty German's iPhone 6s by Sgt. Brian Bunner on February 15, 2017.​

This is from the GH transcript:
the actual video was upside down and twisted you know we were able to
stabilize it and and get that photo and get it out to the public as soon as
possible do you know how they were able to stabilize uh this video
I don't I know we have experts that do that and I know they were able to stabilize it and yeah I don't know how and you guys
were able to get two uh those two seconds That You released in 2019 those are the only
really two seconds of clearness that you could find right of him walking yes yes
so so in the in the actual video he's directly behind Abby on the bridge for
for majority of it and just for those couple seconds way the camera angle was or
moved we were able to get that portion of him yeah and I actually think that uh
when we were a long time ago when we were looking into where things were I think he was actually after when you put
out those two seconds it was after this last platform right he was only about 60 feet from the end of the bridge I think maybe 57 it's a fair statement yep

 

[Salah11]

So as suspected that first photo released did have Abby’s jacket sleeve on it.

That shows how close he was to her and I believe that was her first time walking across the bridge as well. The fear and terror she must of been feeling in those minutes as he closed in on her.

 

[mrjitty]

I know they saw it in the live.
That's why I'm questioning the claim they were intentionally being deceptive.

All i can suggest if you compare what Motta says now about how far back BG is in the DD video I just posted, compared to his day 7 recap during trial. And remember that for his day 7 recap he'd just seen all the versions.

YMMV

 

[mrjitty]

So as suspected that first photo released did have Abby’s jacket sleeve on it.

That shows how close he was to her and I believe that was her first time walking across the bridge as well. The fear and terror she must of been feeling in those minutes as he closed in on her.

Yep - he is close at hand. As the Lauren video i posted up thread shows, he could close that gap in 10s - exactly as happens in the video.

 

[Boxer]

For me the best aspected of this video for the defence is whether there is evidence of a gun.

But without the enhanced audio, I have no view on that.

Play the video at 50% speed and turn the volume up. You can hear everything said and the metallic crunch of racking.

 

[twall]

I'm more confused than ever. It says right on the site:

This is from the GH transcript:
the actual video was upside down and twisted you know we were able to
stabilize it and and get that photo and get it out to the public as soon as
possible do you know how they were able to stabilize uh this video
I don't I know we have experts that do that and I know they were able to stabilize it and yeah I don't know how and you guys
were able to get two uh those two seconds That You released in 2019 those are the only
really two seconds of clearness that you could find right of him walking yes yes
so so in the in the actual video he's directly behind Abby on the bridge for
for majority of it and just for those couple seconds way the camera angle was or
moved we were able to get that portion of him yeah and I actually think that uh
when we were a long time ago when we were looking into where things were I think he was actually after when you put
out those two seconds it was after this last platform right he was only about 60 feet from the end of the bridge I think maybe 57 it's a fair statement yep

Same, if this is the original what did they need to have stabilized and enhanced? It looks pretty darn clear and stable as JH told GH the still shot they released to the public was taken from the enhanced/stabilized version of the video.

 

[Salah11]

The facts remain the same it’s Richard Allen who did this. It truly astounds me some still believe in some weird conspiracy.

 

[Cyber sleuth]

Play the video at 50% speed and turn the volume up. You can hear everything said and the metallic crunch of racking.

Yes as could be heard IMO in the initial release of his full GDTH release.
I hate to play Monday morning quarterback and I just picked up at the end of this thread but I really wish they released tbe beginning of this video early in the investigation. Seeing Allen in relation to his victims gives a better idea of his short stature and build.
The close up isolated image made him appear larger because there wasn’t anything in frame to really reference his height.
I do believe in this newly released video you see him adjust his arm to reach for his gun. His gait was absolutely rapid and he was purposefully trying to gain the girls. He was not acting respectful of personal boundaries or innocent in his approach. It must have been so frightening.
JMO

 

[FrostedGlass]

Same, if this is the original what did they need to have stabilized and enhanced? It looks pretty darn clear and stable as JH told GH the still shot they released to the public was taken from the enhanced/stabilized version of the video.

I didn't have great expectations that releasing the video would impact the case one way or another. What I was hoping for was to get to the truth of what was on it.

What I did learn, which was very unexpected, is that the girls seemed to have a destination ("there") that necessitated going down the hill to get to it. I'm speculating the big draw may have been a shoe tree.

 

[Tortoise]

I didn't have great expectations that releasing the video would impact the case one way or another. What I was hoping for was to get to the truth of what was on it.

What I did learn, which was very unexpected, is that the girls seemed to have a destination ("there") that necessitated going down the hill to get to it. I'm speculating the big draw may have been a shoe tree.

I think it's obvious that Libby is making nervous small talk, of the only thing she could think of in that moment because they were trapped, to cover for her whispered question to Abby about whether he had a gun. IMO

 

[Boxer]

Yes as could be heard IMO in the initial release of his full GDTH release.
I hate to play Monday morning quarterback and I just picked up at the end of this thread but I really wish they released tbe beginning of this video early in the investigation. Seeing Allen in relation to his victims gives a better idea of his short stature and build.
The close up isolated image made him appear larger because there wasn’t anything in frame to really reference his height.
I do believe in this newly released video you see him adjust his arm to reach for his gun. His gait was absolutely rapid and he was purposefully trying to gain the girls. He was not acting respectful of personal boundaries or innocent in his approach. It must have been so frightening.
JMO

Its awful. He rushed on them like a wolf on sheep. May Abby and Libby Rest in Peace.

 

[Mirabel091]

"There"

IMO the girls were terrified and probably wanted to go back to where they were being picked up from. But the direct route has Bridge Guy in the middle of it and they know now that he can cross the bridge faster than they can.

Then he caught up and spoke to them and they were out of options.

 

[helenff]

Pretty much every woman knows that it can be scary having an unknown male walking behind them at speed. Often that fear is not founded in anything specific and many men are just trying to get to their destination. But our sure knowledge that if they mean us danger, they will probably be able to overpower us, ensures that most women would be scared in that situation.

Baffled at anyone who thinks the girls wouldn't be fearful.

 

[Megnut]

If Abby and Libby had a planned destination, they would have conditioned on to it. Instead they held back, aware that they had nowhere to go because RA was pressing upon them and everything else was trespassing.

RA forced them into that position. Trapped.

Worse, he knew there was nowhere for them to go, so he timed his approach to overtake Abby before she reached the end of the bridge.

Their mounting fear, palpable.

JMO

 

[Salah11]

There was likely a exchange before Richard forced them off the bridge.

Abby and Libby are simply too scared and fearful in that audio for there not to have been a exchange before hand.

IMO

 

[Boxer]

Pretty much every woman knows that it can be scary having an unknown male walking behind them at speed. Often that fear is not founded in anything specific and many men are just trying to get to their destination. But our sure knowledge that if they mean us danger, they will probably be able to overpower us, ensures that most women would be scared in that situation.

Baffled at anyone who thinks the girls wouldn't be fearful.

Men, who don't have some mental incapacity know they make women fearful by rushing up on them, crossing to their side of the street etc.
They make decisions not to do so or find a way to contextualize their movements as safe (Sorry, I gotta catch that bus) or find another route at least many times a week.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I think it's obvious that Libby is making nervous small talk, of the only thing she could think of in that moment because they were trapped, to cover for her whispered question to Abby about whether he had a gun. IMO

What made her think, at that moment, that he had a gun? Did she turn around on the bridge to look at him? glance over her shoulder? It's been said that the rack wasn't heard until between "hi" and "dth"

I've always thought that Abby crossing the bridge was something special; I just never could decide on what that might have been.

 

[Seattle1]

This is where i struggle to understand the Bridge Guy innocence project, even after listening to the Mottas.

As i understand it the general idea is the video shows no abduction and the girls were always planning to go down the hill

I recently watched a Court TV interview with Vinnie and one of CTV's producers who covered the trial and she had a different theory about a possible prior conversation between RA and the girls where RA may have told them there was no trail at the opposite end of the bridge but he'd show them how to return to the other side -- hence the instruction "down the hill" wasn't the first time he'd talked to them. She seemed to think the girls were waiting for him, and why they did not run. I don't know that I believe any of this to be true but I do think they exchanged words with RA before crossing the bridge and 'down the hill' spoken by RA wasn't the first time he spoke to them. IMO, LG was already suspicious of him by instinct.

Found the video. Starts after 5 minute intro:

3/13/25

Delphi Murders: 'Bridge Guy' Video Released | Closing Arguments with Vinnie Politan​