Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #207

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MOO he didn't wish to leave living witnesses to his attempt to SA minor children. Witnesses who are no longer living cannot identify their attacker.

Exactly, the most common reason that sociopaths kill their SA victims - no witnesses. He had already depersonalized them before the attack in the way he ordered them around. When referring to how he cut the necks or whatever, it made my stomach turn. Cold and careless, as if he took out the trash. He didn't care about those girls or their families, he only cared about himself, about not getting caught and having his wife find out.
 
No sorry. But I do recall reading the testimony somewhere about it today, the dates a certain drug was administered. If I come across it again I’ll certainly provide you with the link since you’re interested.

By the way, do you happen to know of Prozac withdrawal symptoms?

“A report from April 25, 2023 said Allen denied experiencing “anything like this in the past,” and thought “this could be due to him not taking his medication, including Prozac.”
Yes, there are definitely Prozac withdrawal symptoms, similar to the symptoms from withdrawal from any drug of dependence.
 
What case information is in the IDOC database?
I do not know, but I would guess it would mirror the court docket information. Showing orders to remand and dates, maybe orders regarding his hold for protection. I would not expect any case related information. The department of correction would not have need for that, and they would not have been released by the court.
 
I don’t think she lied. I just don’t think she helped the state at all. I don’t think those “confessions” were all I hoped for either. My experience says lies are vague and without a lot of details. Truth is full of vivid details. Not that I want them but those things he said to her - sound robotic and devoid of detail imo. I don’t know what to make of it. It’s not BARD for me. Moo.

Also here it says “solitary confinement”. It doesn’t even suggest it was nicer than what other inmates had. Nor do I care if it was. 13. Months. Not cool State! Not cool!! Moo.

“During cross-examination by defense attorney Bradley Rozzi, Wala acknowledged that inmates are meant to be in solitary confinement for a maximum of 30 days. Allen was in solitary confinement for 13 months ― a situation that Wala acknowledged could impact his mental health.“

It also says his placement at westville was expedited. Why was this??


A dog cage??

“Wala confirmed that Allen’s transport in the cubicle, or “dog cage,” as Rozzi put it, was not a pleasant experience.” -

And “Rozzi then said Wala destroyed notes she shouldn’t have, prompting a back-and-forth between the attorney and the doctor. News 8’s Kyla Russell reports that the notes in question were notes she documented during meetings with Allen which she later put together in a word doc.” both quotes from link below.

Perhaps I am missing something here. Rossi said Wala destroyed the notes and she shouldn't have. What law or regulation or standard did he reference that proves that? If she put them together in a Word Doc, there is a record. Is your point that she because she didn't save handwritten copies, she did something wrong somehow?
 
Perhaps I am missing something here. Rossi said Wala destroyed the notes and she shouldn't have. What law or regulation or standard did he reference that proves that? If she put them together in a Word Doc, there is a record. Is your point that she because she didn't save handwritten copies, she did something wrong somehow?
In the same article linked it showed this was part of her job duty. More of the nothing. You are correct she did nothing wrong.

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When I was in therapy, my therapist took notes by hand while we talked.. it was more personal that way. She told me she would write up these notes to store online later.. not sure if that is a word document or what, but she took the notes she made and typed them up. I dont think it's odd that this is what they do in the prison.. I'm not sure she could bring her computer to the prison cells.. likely notes made it easier to refer to later in her office to type them up.

Of course the defense would make this act of "Destroying" her notes seem nefarious. I bet if you asked she did the exact same thing for every single patient she has.
 
I think it’s suspicious to destroy notes for a patient who is facing trial. The notes are the best evidence.
How?

They are her notes as to what he said.. she wrote them down the first time in order to type them up later. What is to say she didn't write them all down wrong to begin with or just not make notes at all about what he said and then make something else up later. If she's the one taking the notes, then why is it suspicious to then take those notes and type them up? I mean if she was going to mis report things why even write things down at all?
 
I think it’s suspicious to destroy notes for a patient who is facing trial. The notes are the best evidence.
I was thinking that perhaps she thought that the handwritten physical notes may fall into the 'wrong hands' given the nature of this case so felt more confident keeping them on her computers which may have been much more secure?
 
I just don’t trust RA. I can’t help but feel totally repulsed by his words, his confessions and comments, so far and tomorrow will bring two hours more. I haven’t decided if I need to hear any more.

Much like how pedophiles sometimes are known to get off from detailed SA stories about children reported in the news, I believe RA was getting his thrill each time he talked about what he did, reliving it, and this is the reason he confessed 60+ times. JMO
 
If this case were in PA it would be very different. When we send mail it goes through a 3rd party processing center where they photo copy, send the copy to the inmate and store the originals. Legal mail is handled the same just sent in to the jail where it is still opened and photocopied and the orginal is stored.
I know states have different ways of handling legal documents but I have a hard time trusting Wala.

That is close to how legal mail was handled at Westville--it was part of a pilot program for copying legal mail (before that legal mail was not copied). I need to find where the link was that stated Westville was part of it, but their procedure is that the original is then shredded in the presence of the inmate.

https://www.in.gov/idoc/files/ED-20-30-Offender-Correspondence-6-16-2020.pdf

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"2. Legal Mail or Privileged Correspondence shall be distributed to offenders at a designated location within the facility.
3. Legal Mail or Privileged Correspondence shall be opened in the presence of an offender and inspected for contraband and prohibited property.
5. If the mail is believed to be unadulterated, an on-site designated copier shall be used to make the offender an accurate, legible copy of the Legal Mail or Privileged Correspondence. The offender must be present for the copying.
6. The offender will sign State Form 11984, acknowledging receipt of an accurate copy of their Legal Mail or Privileged Correspondence.
7. The original mail shall be shredded in the presence of the offender."

In 2021 some Indiana facilities had a test program using the 3rd party processing system.

 
I think it’s suspicious to destroy notes for a patient who is facing trial. The notes are the best evidence.
The notes were more than likely added to a word document on a computer, then shred the actual paper it was written on.-----
Ya know-- for Security reasons, no written papers laying around to be found, but instead located within a secure computer.

Ta-DA-- notes not destroyed, only put on digital documents.

Just another ridiculous attempt from the D team !!

JMO and my work experience with confidential notes/documents protocol.
 
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